New respect for Mr Tug if you found him hard to take at times.
It was Chris from British discipline I always thought out of the two would be the firmer giver, Mr Tug was daulting for the way he always shouted at the miscreant or more often miscreants he was good at the group whackings.
Never seen him at the club but if he does go that's good as him. Chris and Mr Tug did a great clip site for many years. (With guest giver Alan who if you wonders where his fearsome reputation as a solid giver comes from its from seeing those British discipline clips where he cracks the cane down repeatedly!