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Not all Vampires are bad!

I dont know if anyone has seen the trailer for '30 Days of Night' but well I am really annoyed that there is yet another vampire film where they are all portrayed as being evil blood sucking monsters! It makes me mad!

Not all Vampires are evil as we well know from meeting the Argeneau family. I know everyone has a different opinion about vampires but surely for once film makers could make a film would suit other peoples opinions where we dont all think they are twisted and evil!

Well rant over but well I had to get it out! xx

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Yeah, I agree. Perhaps one day there's going to be a TV series of the Argeneau stories.

Anyone have suggestions for which actors or actresses they'd like to see playing Argeneau characters?

Dave

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Hmmm, a TV series. What a fantastic idea! I'll have to give some thought to actors/actresses good enough to portray our beloved Argeneaus.

What do you think Vicky? Have you read A QUICK BITE yet? Maybe we should start with Margeurite, Lissianna, and Greg first, and go from there.

Mr. Spice, I think you may be onto something. Although nothing replaces books for me, Lynsay already has enough Argeneau stories out for a really great TV series. What a fun topic!

Maybe you should add an Argeneau of the month in the newsletter, and we can vote on best actor or actress for the character.

wren

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I think that Johnny Depp could make a good Lucern but maybe thats just because I am a huge Johnny Depp fan!

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I loved a Quick Bite, I think the hardest character to get a suitbale actress for is going to be Maguerite as she is such a character! Its going to be a challenge!

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Heh yeah I have read a quick bite. I think we should definately start with Marguerite (i know I have spelt it wrong but not well today so please forgive me) as she is such a strong character and really what holds the family together. Finding an actress to play her is going to be a difficult one! Its difficult as she is so young looking but so ver old and wise its a tuff one!

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Oh yes, Johnny Depp is a good choice. I really like him, too.

It is hard to think of someone for Marguerite. I haven't thought of just the right actress that could do her justice. And I was trying to think of someone who would go well beside her as Lissianna.

I only started with A Quick Bite since it is the first book in reading order.

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Interesting. I was thinking of Alan Rickman for Lucern - remember his over-the-top performance as the Sherriff of Nottingham in the Kevin Costner Robin Hood movie?

Toned down a little bit that would be perfect for a grumpy vampire who doesn't want his reclusive existance disturbed.

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Do you know, Vicky, I think you're right. They have traditionally been monsters haven't they. At this point I can't even think of a movie where they portrayed them as anything else. Angel had a bit of an edge, but was basically a good guy Buffy though, and they now apparently have a couple of series with friendly vamps. But I can't think of a movie portraying them as all right. Can anyone think of one?

Lynsay, now curious

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If you are going for camp it would be George Hamilton in Love at First Bite. The man had a warped sense of humor. And Artie Johnson as Reinfield.

Love Bites: The Reluctant Vampire (USA) with Adam Ant.

Also, Forever Knight was a good T.V. show.Starring: Geraint Wyn Davies. Nick was a pretty good guy,unless you really got him mad.

But then aren't we all.

This is what I can come up with at the moment.

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Alan Rickman would be GREAT! I can see him already with fangs.

Kyle Schmidt, the guy who plays vampire Henry Fitzroy on Blood Ties, would be great as any of Lynsay's vamps but I can see him as Thomas. He can swap quips with the best of them, is quite the ladies man and can get deadly serious when necessary.

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oooh, I love Alan Rickman! That wonderful voice!!

But if you get away from the Sheriff in Robin Hood and Snape in Harry Potter, both characters in which he is fantastic, I can see him as...Lucian. His voice has so much authority in it, and as an actor he has a huge range from drama to comedy. Can't you just see him dealing with Julius, Marguerite's dog? And, like Lucern, Lucian is kind of crusty on the outside, too.

I also like Hugh Laurie. He has those amazing blue eyes. We already know he can play the grumpiest doctor who ever lived on House, and he can change his voice/accent to fit a character. Is he British? Because on one of the award shows, when speaking in his normal voice, he sounded British. I see him as Bastien, because I think he could be great as a steady take-charge all business kind of vampire with a vunerable side. Besides, he's gorgeous.

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Alan Rickman would be good yes, a fantastic actor. I have actually seen the Adam Ant film and yes that did have a good guy in it, but the woman was not that nice!

I think that Cate Blanchett is a great actress she could fit well into a character maybe Lisianna or Gwyneth Paltrow but finding someone to play her mum may be hard.

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Hugh Laurie is British and would be a good older vamp with an attitude. Plus he is very funny with his dry humor and sarcastic comments.
The only movie that I can think of that had some vamps as good guys was Underworld. They didn't kill humans and drank bagged blood too.
The two TV male vamps on Blood Ties and Moonlight are good vamps. They are both handsome men and good actors. The male good vamp "Scott Speedman" in Underworld was good also, plus cute.
Lissiana could be played by the blonde star on Moonlight. She also played a vamp in Underworld.
I will have to do my research (when I am not at work), so I can supply some names for you guys.
I gotta get back to work. When I get those names, I will add them.
Have a good day everyone.

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You know I'd completely forgotten that Alan Rickman is in the Harry Potter Movies - It's funny how some things slip your mind.

By the way - this is me - Mr Spice - and not Lynsay signed in as me.

I don't know if anyone watches the British TV sci fi show Dr. Who - but the lead actor David Tennant would also make a great Argeneau - Etienne would be my guess.

And if you don't watch it - it is shown in the US and on CBC here in Canada - then you're missing a great show - It's a sci-fi that isn't sci-fi - if you know what I mean - kind of in the same way Ugly Betty isn't really about fashion, it's just a background the real storylines.

Now how about some suggestions for the girls in the books...

Dave

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What about Rose McGowan (from Charmed) for Rachel?
She spent a couple of seasons as a redhead, and she is just sassy enough to go up against Uncle Lucian and be a great match for Etienne.

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She sounds like a perfect Rachel. How about Nicole Kidman or Naomi Watts as the willowy Kate as they would be a good match for Luc?

xx

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I think Kate Hudson would make a great Lissianna.
Also, if she could pull it off, Natalie Portman might be a possible Marguerite. Ahh, the challenge of Marguerite...

Possibly Ashley Judd or Alyssa Milano for Terri?

Either Nicole Kidman or Naomi Watts would make a good, willowy Kate. I can't decide who would be better.

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I think Naomi Watts would be great she stood up to King Kong so i am sure she can handle Luc!

Natalie Portman is a great choice, infact all those choices were great, what about the twins tho? Not sure Mary-Kate and Ashleigh Olsen would do it, althouh its a start! x

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Good choices for the girls and I agree Marguerite is a difficult one. Even though I'm actually not over keen on some of her past acting performances I'd have to choose Jennifer Aniston - If she could toughen up a little bit she'd make a great Argeneau matriarch.

While I'm on the subject - Anyone have a liking for Gary Oldman as Lucien?


Dave

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I agree Gary Oldman would be a good Lucian and Naomi Watts would be a good Lissiana.
How about Monica Bellucci as Marguerite? She was in the Matrix Reloaded (wife of the bad guy). She is sophisticated and beautiful.
Regarding Lissiana, maybe Cameron Diaz, Laura Dern or Bridget Fonda. Sophia Myles from Moonlight and Underword would fit except maybe her height.
I liked the other suggestions regarding Alan Rickman too.
FYI - The vamp from Moonlight is Alex O'Laughlin.

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I like Gary Oldman, also. Would Jason Issacs be a good Victor to go with Gary as Lucian? Both of these actors have also been in the Harry Potter movies, along with David Thewlis-sp? They are all superb actors.

What do you think of Anne Hathaway for Marguerite?
Possibly Charisma Carpenter for Leigh? I keep wanting to make Leigh blond because of BMIYC book cover.

I have found Vincent! Adrian Paul, probably best known from the TV show Highlander. Another personal favorite of mine!

I like Jennifer Anistan too, but I think she might make a good Jackie.

I had thought of Mary Kate & Ashley Olsen for the twins, even though I think their acting skills aren't that great. They are really pretty, though, and they have been in front of a camera all their lives.

Have we thought of a Thomas, yet?

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Denise, I had never seen Blood Ties, but the actor Kyle, would be a great Thomas.

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I agree with Wren, Kyle from Blood Ties would fit well

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Ooo, you guys would LOVE Blood Ties. You can watch it all online right now, too. It's on the Lfetime website. Here's the URL:
http://videos.lifetimetv.com/?fr_chl=0cf7b7e4ea183e307ec1bb0a8b7f2dccd2cc5517&rf

Make sure you start with Episode 1 of First Season if you want to try it out

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Wren, funny you should mention David Thewlis. I don't think he's make a good Argeneau, but I have just read his first novel - The Late Hector Kipling - and which is very funny.

It's a parody of the current British modern art scene - Tracey Emin, Damien Hirst and all of those other 'artists' who think an unmade bed can somehow be transformed into a masterpiece if you call it art.

Well worth a look if you want a change of genre. The book, that is, not Tracey Emin's unmade bed.

Dave

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Mr. Spice,

I agree that David Thewlis doesn't seem to be right for an Argeneau. Funny that you have just read his book. I had seen him being interviewed while J.K.Rowling was touring in the US recently, and that's when I found out he was an author. I didn't really know what the book was about. I'll see if I can find it now.

Thanks, wren

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How about Heath Ledger for Ettienne I think he would be quite good he can do cheeky and serious so well within the same character I think he would be great! Actually he would make a great Bastien! x

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Vicky, Heath looks like a good choice for an Argeneau!

I nominate Dave to compile our casting of characters so we can see who we need or want, cause I'm losing track of all our suggestions.

What do you say, Mr. Spice? Are you gonna get us organized? Since Lynsay has to write the stories, we need an executive producer & director for this series!

wren

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I'll see what I can do. Lynsay has just said a great big NO to Jennifer Aniston. I guess she's not a fan, then.

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Lynsay taking time to wade in here and clarify.

It's not that I'm not a fan, simply that I have trouble seeing her as anything but Rachel on Friends who was really a very whiney, selfish, self-absorbed character.

Marguerite and Lissianna look exactly alike except for the hair, Lissi being blonde and Marguerite dark-haired. One actress could play both, but they wouldn't be the Rachel sort of character. And I know that was acting, but even in her personal life Jennifer didn't come across that strong when Brad Pitt and her split. Can you imagine anyone feeling sorry for Marguerite? Would she allow it?

If I knew Jennifer I would have called her up and said, SLAP. Girlfriend, don't play--or even let the press--play you as the poor abandoned wife. Find your dignity, call a press conference and say, "Don't feel sorry for me. Obviously Brad didn't love me as a proper husband should and I'm grateful to Angelina for stealing him before I wasted any more of my best years on him." Then go on about your life.

But that's just what Marguerite would have done in that situation.

Lynsay, who has to get back to work

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Marguerite doesn't ever feel sorry for herself, even with what happpened with Jean Claude, just sad at his tragic demise. She, however, looks at all the good things that came about of his turning her (her children, the better life she has had), rather than regretting the unequal and cruel marriage she suffered with him. It also gave her wisdom into what makes a true lifemate. I cannot picture Marguerite as ever being whiny (although I'm kind of good at the whiny thing.) Just ask my dh!

I still think it would be fun to have two different actresses play the parts, or twin actresses except I can't think of any. A really good actress could do the double-duty thing. I also just can't think of anyone really good to play Jackie, and we need her Tiny still. We also still need Lissianna's Greg.
Lynsay, where did you get the name "Lissianna?" It's such a beautiful name, and I had never heard it before I read your books.

Okay, we know David Thewlis (opinion of Dave and wren that he doesn't seem like Argeneau material) and Jennifer Anistan (Lynsay's firm opinion-author's perogative) are out. Whatever their insecurities, all of the Argeneau women are strong characters.

So when you organize us Dave, you have to make sure the actor/actress really fits the character and you have to get final say from the author of the books. Just thought I'd give you an easy task.

But I do think all the board members having fun with this should abide by y'alls final decisions with good spirits about it, however you choose to put it together. I'm glad this forum is password protected and friendly, along with being somewhat moderated. I have been on a couple in the past where people got ugly with each other over the silliest things, and that is just not the Mr.& Mrs. Spice way.

This has been such a fun activity on the board while waiting for the new releases. I'm just as excited about the day after Christmas as the holiday itself this year! My sons keep asking me what I want for Christmas, and I keep saying "bookstore gift-cards."

Renee

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I too am loving this post it is so cool thinking of actors/actresses to play the argeneaus! Brilliant! cant wait to see the list xx

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Okay, I've got Lissiana's Greg. The other guy from Blood Ties, Dylan Neal.

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If not for Greg then one of the Argeneau men. He does have that certain something!!!

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I have all the characters so well in my head I wish I could just pluck them out and make them real, would be even better if Lynsay could do that as after all she created them. xx

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Ok here is my 2 cents........
I have always imagined Margarette Juliette Binoche. She was Vianne in Chocolat. When ever I read I kind of hear the voice of the character. I loved her and Johnny Depp in that movie.
Linda~

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Sorry Dave I have got to disagree with the Jennifer Aniston ..... shutter.... I just cant see that.
Linda~ behind in the posts.

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Denise You are sooooooo right Dylan Neal from Blood Ties, would be great!
Linda~

Nov 12th, 2007 - 8:43 PM Re: Not all Vampires are bad!

Okay, I've got Lissiana's Greg. The other guy from Blood Ties, Dylan Neal.
Cindy





Nov 12th, 2007 - 8:51 PM Re: Not all Vampires are bad!

If not for Greg then one of the Argeneau men. He does have that certain something!!!

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Jude Law for Ettienne?
Linda~

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Okay, we've got to get Hugh Jackman in there somewhere. I can picture him as Lucern, or maybe even Vincent.

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hummmmmmmmm maybe Colin Firth as Lucern?

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Had not considered Colin Firth but thats a great suggestion!

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I've got to laugh at the way we Brits are winning out here. I'd better redress the balance by suggesting a few American actors - or perhaps not since I just considered Hugh 'House' Laurie for Lucien.

How about Mike Myers playing the bad guy, Pudge, from Love Bites?

Colin Firth? You ladies just want to see him in those trousers he wore in the Pride & Prejudice TV series. Come on, admit it.

Dave

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Dave, I had noticed that the Brits were winning out, especially the guys, partly because along with my fellow casting agents, I kept nominating those actors. Yay, Hugh Laurie is one of my suggestions! He just has those great blue eyes...

I fell in love with a lot of the British actors through, of all things, the Harry Potter movies. Then, I tended to look for the other work they had done. Put that "Lucius Malfoy blond wig" on Jason Issacs, and I'll watch him in anything. He was actually voted a "sexiest villain" for playing that part. I can't remember which magazine, because I read it on the internet somewhere. Oh, let me be honest, I will simply watch him or Alan Rickman in anything for the rest of my life.

I'm not sure I have nominated a single American actor. I'll have to look back at my posts. Adrian Paul is French, and just happens to be a favorite of mine. My mother-in-law was French, and my dh was born in France. His father was US army when he met his mom while stationed overseas.

Oh wait, Johnny Depp is American, but he chooses to live in France. I also thought of Julian McMahan, who is Australian, but never suggested him for an Argeneau.

However, I think on the ladies we have suggested quite a few from all over, so it seems we have quite a mix.

Well, I can't help it, bring on the Brits! Your challenge, Dave, is finding a spot for all the Brits we want in the series. Of course, Lynsay has more characters coming up, plus other favorites that are not Argeneaus such as the Nottes from ABTR, so that gives you a little room to keep a reserve list since you get to read the books first.

Mike Myers would be a good "Pudge." I hadn't really started thinking about the bad boys & girls, yet.

wren, who has a migraine today that just won't go away.

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Okay, I admit it, I was wrong. Adrian Paul is also British. He speaks fluent English, French, and Italian, and according to some interview long ago said he would love to play a vampire. Can't help it, Dave, I think the Brits are gonna win this casting call.

Possible American actors: Matthew McConaughey(might make a good Etienne), Adrian Grenier, James Marsden, Patrick Dempsey, Vince Vaughn(might make a good Tiny)Anybody have an idea for any of these, or different suggestions?

Only Matthew and Vince brought a character to mind, though. Who knows, Lynsay's Argeneau men all have that "old world" grace and slight accents that are hard to place, so maybe it makes her fans think British?

wren, whose headache is better but still not feeling well. I'm off to take a nap.

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I have to admit Mr Spice that I loved P&P! Colin Firth was just..........yummy.
Did you see the second Bridget Jones where she intervied CF and could only think about his wet brithces. Sigh

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had forgotten how good pride was oh I am going to have to see that again! This list is really coming along! I think when there is a list we need to have the pictures next to the names so that we can really decide if they would be suitable.

xx

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I'm trying to fit Clive Owen into this somewhere, seeing as it's just turned into the second British Invasion.

I have him pencilled in for Mortimer - but you might have to wait until book 10 (gasps of horror from the forum) to see why.

We still need more girls in the list - so come on, drag yourselves away from thoughts of Colin Firth's wet britches (I'm shocked, Linda, I'm really shocked) and think of Kate, Leigh, Jackie, Lissianna and Rachel.

Dave

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Oh, now really, I'd much rather see Colin in the leather pants he wore to do his dance in What a Girl Wants. And those would fit into the vamp persona much better, as well.

Hmm... American actors... maybe Topher Grace? I could see him as an Argeneau.

Ladies... hmm... can't think of any. I just don't pay as much attention to them as I do the guys. Now, I wonder why that is?

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Alright girls, cold showers all round before we go any further on this topic.

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