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The subject here is not Lincolns invasion

You are always complaining that people can't homeschool for various reasons. Wouldn't supplying books to ALL kids (say, they could apply for financial qualification for assist) make more sense? And help people homeschool who might not otherwise be able to??

You recently claimed that Ron was so bloodthirsty to be mentally ill

But when you want to get together with him to denounce anything I post here, you must believe he has some discrete pockets of lucidity remaining.

You both seem to overcome any mutual animosity when the topic is getting together to prove I am wrong.

I did not post ANYTHING against homeschooling. If you are eager to help homeschoolers get books, start such a program for them!

The subject here is not Rons mental status, either

Why won't you address the point he made? Why the attempts to divert?

>>>> did not post ANYTHING against homeschooling. If you are eager to help homeschoolers get books, start such a program for them!<<<<<

Yes, private assistance for the homeschoolers, the govskool kids got THEIRS!!!

I agree, actually. And as I posted above, I suspect these books are PC, eco-worshipping modern propaganda. I suspect they are not literature, they are certainly not intended as reading matter for kids. They are corporate "curriculum" aids for teachers.

Keep the gulag pushing crap and the homeschoolers can go to thrift stores and used book shops and online and get decent books to READ.

You take pains to downplay it but your disdain for homeschooling shows through. I don't get it. Why?? Because they are escaping the gulag indoctrination? Because so many are Christians? What's your beef?

Re: The subject here is not Rons mental status, either

I post an article about books for kids who are at risk of illiteracy and you insist it must mean I disdain homeschool.

It "shows through" to you, since you are ever looking for ways to prove that I am an enemy of whatever you think is the "way to live."

I am a strong proponent of unschooling, or open source learning, which allows children to gravitate toward learning in their own way, at their own pace, toward their own interests. I also like democratic schools. You don't, insisting that democracy is mob rule.

If you don't like my ideas and insist I am against homeschooling, DON'T READ MY POSTS! I guess you'd rather start fights and clutter the forum with words like commie and crap and crud. I guess that provides you with cheap entertainment that you'd be missing otherwise. Try attending a roller derby instead of responding to my posts. That should give you the thrills you're after.

Re: The subject here is not Rons mental status, either

>>>>I post an article about books for kids who are at risk of illiteracy and you insist it must mean I disdain homeschool.<<<<

No, not on the article you posted, it is your response to Ron that is so odd....for a homeschool "supporter".

>>>>It "shows through" to you, since you are ever looking for ways to prove that I am an enemy of whatever you think is the "way to live."<<<

No. Ron has accused you of it before but I never saw it. But here you clearly are biased against homeschooling. You complain about how hard it is for some to homeschool, justifying the gulag, yet HELPING people to perhaps homeschool and get out of the gulag does not apparently appeal to you.

>>>>>I am a strong proponent of unschooling, or open source learning, which allows children to gravitate toward learning in their own way, at their own pace, toward their own interests. I also like democratic schools. You don't, insisting that democracy is mob rule.<<<

Which it obviously is and you have never been able to explain how it is not. And you would think that you would reassess your deotion to it because of that...but you won't. Because you LIKE the idea of mob rule, the majority of the herded and dumbed down tyrannizing the few who are not.

>>>>>If you don't like my ideas and insist I am against homeschooling, DON'T READ MY POSTS!<<<<

I can recall a time when I begged you to ignore mine. And you proceeded to trash me in posts to others and I didn't realize it until I read someone ELSES post referring to a comment you made. So I now know better.

>>>>> I guess you'd rather start fights and clutter the forum with words like commie and crap and crud. I guess that provides you with cheap entertainment that you'd be missing otherwise. Try attending a roller derby instead of responding to my posts. That should give you the thrills you're after.<<<<<

Sorry my "rhetorical flourishes" are lacking in your view. LOL!

And you made a good point in return

JS,
You did not actually say so but ultimately encouraging home schooling will reduce the cost of public schooling. That is an obvious conclusion based on what you did say.
Removing home schoolers wouldn't necessarily be a case of removing the best students but it seems to me that we would probably be removing the students with the most involved parents. Maybe that is part of what the public schoolers fear?
Ron

Re: And you made a good point in return

Removing the best students is a bogus argument against homeschooling. No one would go to a crummy MD or lawyer just to support them. Why do it for "schools", sacrificing your kids in the process?

Re: What about homeschoolers??

Ron, let the gulag HAVE the books. They are probably full of PC lies and CRAP anyway as are most modern books. Did you read the article? These are not books for kids to actually READ. They aren't supposed to be actually READING anyway. We KNOW the gulag does not educate.These books are for TEACHERS to plan CURRICULUMS. They sneer with disdain at kids shoving USED books into backpacks to READ individually.

Homeschoolers need to go to the thrift stores and library book sales (that POOR people are too stupid to know to do????) and get the GOOD books, the classics being dumped by the truckload, the old reading texts from before the worst of the great dumbing down, Bibles.

A personal story

JS,
Amen, I never could grasp grammar. On the contrary I loved literature, mathematics and the other liberal arts subjects.
Finally in a fit of somekind I searched out and bought one of the standard grammar texts of a hundred yeas ago - or was it 150 years ago?
That was much, much better but still fell short. Finally I discussed the matter with a girl buddy that was an engineering graduate before the depression hit. She pointed out that what we usually call "grammar" consists of two major divisions and that the rules change depending on the context. That fact is always assumed but never explained in my experience.
Thus armed I went back to the books and tackled them again. I found that my friend's two division analysis was correct but that even the writers of grammar texts can never keep that simple fact straight.
Ron


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