and expects people to believe her.<<<<<

You don't have to believe me at all. No one does. That does not change the truth one bit.

>>>>> Calls abortion clinics baby killing mills and expects people to believe her.<<<<<

Again, DUH.

>>>>>Uses speech such as hogwash, bilge and crud to "criticize" other people's ideas.<<<<

And at the same time I explain WHY they oare hogwash, etc.

>>>>>js absolves herself of any responsibility for anything her country of citizenship does because she didn't vote for Obama. <<<<

I did not participate in the ritual sham of choosing my own ruler. I do not consent to this system/worldview. It is being forced on me. "Citizenship" is a scam, a hoax, a farce for the dumbed down. You really believe that Obama was elected (and is a "citizen")?? You really believe that "The People" wanted these wars, these fat cat bailouts (of EUROPEAN banks, yet!!)??>>

>>>>>I have not excused it or supported it or claimed it was necessary or good.<<<<

Then WHY on earth this insistence that ALL must participate in it??

>>>>> Neither has Amy. More cop outs to try to prove how noble and good you are, when you are but another coward who is too timid to protest taxes, war or anything else.<<<<<

LOL!! Apparently you missed the thread about the actual selecting out of populations troublemakers to the existing order via identifying them and doing away with them in order to create a population of meek "citizens" who fight amongst themselves instead of rebelling against their masters. Yes. I MUST go stand in front of a tank in Tianamen Square or Washington to PROVE to YOU how noble and good I am. No thanks. I have wasted enough time "protesting", "making my voice heard", etc. You will just have to despise my "cowardice". I will continue to expose the legalized mafia for what they are and you will continue to defend them and attack me for NOT loving them as you do.

>>>> You merely know how to chatter on this forum, as if that is accomplishing something.<<<

That tidy little "ending" again. I am aware of you low opinion of me. I will try to bear the pain of the knowledge that the resident commie change agent on this forum disappproves of me.

A zygote, an embryo and a fetus is not a BABY, as you insist.

Saying SOME taxes are legitimate does not mean I support the wars. I realize that must be difficult for you to comprehend.



I never said I loved legalized mafia, which is another good example of how you misrepresent what I say here.



I am not a resident commie change agent. Repeating it a million times doesn't make it so, except in your own addled mind.

Neither is Riane Eisler a slimebag, nor Mitch Hall a nutjob.

And citizenship, according to Gatto, is not "a scam, a hoax, a farce for the dumbed down." Why don't you write to Gatto and tell him how dumbed down he is?

>>>>>A zygote, an embryo and a fetus is not a BABY, as you insist.<<<<

Oh, really? Butcher as many babies as you can and the ones who escape your scapels you try to steal from their parents. Why do you hate children and babies? Why do you hate the family so? Why do you hate PEOPLE so much?

>>>>>>Quote:
>>>>>I have not excused it or supported it or claimed it was necessary or good.<<<<

???!!!!!!??? LOL!!!!

>>>>>>Then WHY on earth this insistence that ALL must participate in it??

>>>>> Neither has Amy. More cop outs to try to prove how noble and good you are, when you are but another coward who is too timid to protest taxes, war or anything else.<<<< Saying SOME taxes are legitimate does not mean I support the wars. I realize that must be difficult for you to comprehend.<<<<<<

Taxes are theft under threat of violence. For WHATEVER reason, even reasons you like money stolen for. State humans are no better than other humans.

>>>>>>>>Quote:
I will continue to expose the legalized mafia for what they are and you will continue to defend them and attack me for NOT loving them as you do.
I never said I loved legalized mafia, which is another good example of how you misrepresent what I say here.<<<<<<

Your NONSTOP insistence that I participate in my own enslavement by the state is certainly illogical then.

>>>>>>>>Quote:
resident commie change agent
I am not a resident commie change agent. Repeating it a million times doesn't make it so, except in your own addled mind.,,,,

No, what makes it so is your relentless insistence that ALL participate in your state system, all pay the state whatever they demand or else be condemned as selfish, that parents have no right to rear their own offspring as they see fit, that people who worship other than you do are evil and stupid (Quiverfulls), and that "Climate Change" is justification for the stripping of further property rights...oh and your love of all things tax funded (community centers, kidjails,Canadas educational experiments). That is SOME of what makes you a commie change agent.

>>>>>Neither is Riane Eisler a slimebag, nor Mitch Hall a nutjob.<<<<

Yes, they are and for reasons I have already gone into.

>>>>>>And citizenship, according to Gatto, is not "a scam, a hoax, a farce for the dumbed down." Why don't you write to Gatto and tell him how dumbed down he is?<<<<<<

I think he knows it.

This is not true, as I posted last week in commentary about Obama - a post you said you agreed with completely.



No, but it must be as much fun for you to say bereft as it is for you to say total hogwash.



Are rules similar to laws? It's a pity you can't write commentary without tossing in ad hominem on the size of my brain. I can understand, however, why you would resent it.



All people who disagree should live in their own little communities? While Shop Till You Drop and Less Is More are themes running throughout Underground, you want to live in a market. Interesting.



Your responses are the same cookie-cutter replies, no matter what the subject is, with the same kind of gratuitous insults you can't seem to refrain from tossing around. You, of course, never shove your morality anywhere, claiming that PZ Myers is like Dr. Mengele (you read it, it must be true), calling abortion murder, etc. What a hypocrite, unaware hypocrite, you are.

I think you are the one who harbors a slave mentality, feeling perfectly free to repeat day after day all you hate about government, yet too fearful to actually try to do anything about it, equating activism with throwing stones. But you do know how to complain, and that is all you do. Of course, if you did anything more than that (protest and reduce taxes, for example, you claim you would be endangering your family).

And now you regress back to the Delphi process, your old standby Saul Alinsky, to try to demonstrate the superiority of complaining over doing anything constructive. In fact, equating constructive action with state predation, trying to paint anyone who disagrees with you into a corner of communism. You're wrong, of course, as anyone with an education that takes one beyond von Mises and lewrockwell.com can see. And despite your claim that the Koch bros are

Climate Science Watch

"Referring to Charles and David Koch as "The Tea Partiers," Rolling Stone says:

"The multibillionaire brothers not only run the nation's largest private energy company, they rival Exxon in funding the front groups that spread disinformation about the dangers of climate change... As author Thomas Frank observes in What's the Matter With Kansas?, `Koch money subsidizes the mass production of bad ideas...'"

And how many of those bad ideas end up here, on John Taylor Gatto's education forum. Is this the forum for bad ideas?

I don't promote the Koch Neocons.

No, you just soak up all their PR on how global warming is a hoax.

The hoaxsters ADMITTED it!

You are hilarious! Still insisting that only the NY Slimes and MSM of that lefty ilk Speak Truth! Can't have any NEOCON propaganda getting in the way of your Marxist propaganda.

But they are telling you and you believe them. Where do you think the bulk of "it's a hoax" commentary originated? lewrockwell.com?

The jury is still out on climate warming, but you accept all the biased media conclusions on the topic at the same time that you ridicule others for accepting MSM opinions in the "Sheeple Quiz."

And you apparently cannot distinguish MARKET propaganda from science. After all, your biased views are aligned with those of the Koch brothers.

Responding to this is a waste of time. I have posted on all of this before for those interested in living VOLUNTARILY cooperating rather than being perfected into approved "citizens" at gunpoint.

Those who WANT to live being ruled by other humans should have that option, of course. They simply cannot demand we ALL have to join them.

I guess consistency is one way to describe your pre-thought thoughts that come in cookie-cutter recipes from lewrockwell.com.

Care to list all those original, never been thought before revelations YOU have birthed on this forum from that vast intellect you think you have?

It's OK, attack LRC, the premier anti-state libertarian portal. It exposes you for the hater of liberty and humanity and state lover that you are.

I do not claim to have "birthed never been thought before revelations." But I usually write my own thoughts about education rather than plunk down regular fare from lewrockwell.com every morning. These are your pre-thought thoughts. The fact that you summarily dismiss any ideas or opinions that are not aligned with them shows how narrow-minded and vicious you've become in attempting to defend lewrockwell.com arguments across the board.

You make excuses for anti-statist Hoppe's and Rothbard's employment at the University of Nevada. You insist that anyone who believes that tax paying is necessary is not only a hater, but a thief besides. You are intolerant of opinions that don't originate from or are not in alignment with those from lewrockwell.com.

You also claim that because I am not enthralled with every word that drips off the pens of lewrockwell.com writers that it means:



No, it doesn't mean that. But you are so transfixed by the opinions on lewrockwell.com that you have apparently convinced yourself that that's the only thing it could mean.

It's remarkable that you don't see such a statement as revealing the depths of your own ignorance and hatred. Instead, you claim that I hate liberty and humanity and are not even embarrassed to say it.

It seems when you feel angry, desperate and vicious enough, you'll say just about anything to try to discredit other people and defend your political allies.

Father Barron

"Now to give Michael Moore his due, there are elements of the Catholic social teaching tradition, which stretches back to Jesus and the Old Testament prophets that support his point of view. In Rerum Novarum, the great text that inaugurated modern Catholic social doctrine, Pope Leo XIII comments that once the demands of necessity and propriety have been met, everything else we own belongs to the poor. I submit to you that if you allow that statement to sink into soul, it will cause a good deal of spiritual and moral discomfort. He furthermore sternly warns the wealthy that their salvation will, to some degree, depend upon their generosity to the poor. Cardinal Francis George of Chicago echoed Pope Leo when he said to a group of wealthy donors some years ago that the poor needed them for their temporal well-being but that they needed the poor in order to avoid going to Hell! More to it, all of the Popes who have written on social matters, from Leo to Benedict XVI, have insisted that the government has a moral obligation to regulate the economy when gross injustices mar the system. In the measure, therefore, that the recent economic collapse was precipitated by an irresponsible deregulation of the financial markets, Michael Moore is right to raise an authentically Catholic voice in protest against it."

Is this the part on Catholic social teaching and justice that you find "non-binding"?

I'm sure you'd still find many things to complain about. It doesn't change the fact that this is what you'd LIKE to be able to say, as a non-taxpayer.

Your silence on the topic does not surprise me.

At least you're reading something besides Riane Eisler.

Nope. Don't agree with Fr. Barron on Marxist Michael Moores "authentic" Catholicism".

There can be voluntary "social justice", like Mother theresa. Note that Fr Barron referred to DONORS, implying VOLUNTARY support to the poor rather than state looting you find so "just".
That is the variety I support. Not Moores (or anyones) "social justice" at gunpoint. Keep looking, there are lots of Marxist priests blathering about "social justice" and promoting wealth redistribution. Bella Dodd wrote about her part in the infiltration.

And no, their ideas are not Church dogma...yet. When they become that I'll part ways with them.

Since you are researching Church teaching read up on the Scholastics at Salamanca, the first economists.

I see. Father Barron is a good film critic, but that's as far as it goes.

I wasn't researching Church teaching. Just thought I'd see what you thought about Father Barron's opinions in this case.

I disagree that one can be a state worshipping Marxist wealth distributor and have an "authentic Catholic" opinion. I doubt Barron would agree. There is nothing wrong with praying for rulers and slavemasters to be just. Or calling on existing governments to be just.