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Re: More rationalization for lunatic social engineering

>>>>>I'm afraid much of the Randism stuck with those like Rothbard who were excommunicated from the cult.<<<<

You are wrong. But you would have to actually read Rothbard to understand the difference.

>>>>>Hoppe wrote a book about the death of democracy. There would have been no death of democracy were it not for the Santa Clara decision that gave corporations control of government.<<<<<

So government gave control of government to corporations? What's the difference? Am I supposed to care whether I have corporate owners or political owners?

>>>>> Government of, by and for the people can be taken back from corporate controllers if enough people begin to care about self-governance.<<<

It never existed, it is a logical imnpossibility, a practical impossibility, a rhetorical fiction indoctrinated into schopol kids. Time to grow up and face reality. You do not "govern" yourself.

>>>>>>I also read an article in which Hoppe advocated banning homosexuals from living in certain areas.<<<<

In a libertarian society, a stateless society. If Hoppe prefers to live in a society without homos, who cares? They would probably prefer to not live with him. What's the problem?

>>>> Now that's certainly a great stand on equal rights, isn't it?<<<<<

You simply prefer for Hoppe to lose HIS right to freely associate while granting homos the right to freely associate as THEY choose. How is THAT "equal"??

>>>> How many more such bizarre rules would your anarchos try to institute?<<<<

Many, many more. There would be many different societies each with their own preferences and values. DIVERSITY, you have heard of that, haven't you?

>>>>Further, you have no evidence that Mises, or Austrian economics, is "true." I know you believe it is, but that's all.<<<<

Debt is bad, savings are good, free markets create wealth, central planning cannot BEGIN to be as efficvient and productive as free markets and the right to own property. That has been proven. The Austrians have predicted and explained all of the depressions, bubbles and effects of Keynesianism, central banking and central economic planning. The Keynesians give us the Broken Window Fallacy. 1+1=2, whether or not you want to believe it. Truth does exist.

>>>>And btw, I am not a state worshiper. I know you like to repeat the phrase, but it's merely another one of the untruths you enjoy throwing around to try to discredit anyone who disagrees with you."

Over and endlessly you post your faith in men to create "fair" societies and perfect people using the force of the state. That is where your faith is.

That is the point, JS - by Ron Harrison - May 1, 2011 2:39pm
Re: That is the point, JS - by js - May 1, 2011 5:49pm
Very, very ugly - by Reffington - May 1, 2011 2:20pm
Re: More rationalization for your being rude - by js - Apr 30, 2011 12:34pm
Re: More rationalization for your being rude - by js - Apr 30, 2011 6:51pm
Re: So, is Soros funding this guy??? - by Reffington - Apr 28, 2011 11:23am
Re: So, is Soros funding this guy??? - by js - Apr 28, 2011 10:39pm
A distortion - by Ron Harrison - Apr 28, 2011 1:55pm
Re: ?? - by Percy D. - Apr 28, 2011 9:45pm
Good post - by Ron Harrison - Apr 29, 2011 9:42am
Another interview with Ferguson - by Reffington - Apr 28, 2011 5:49am
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