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A favor to Jerry

"I'd like to ask you a couple of questions. Please try to rationilize your answers though without making this a personal verbal attack."

Ok Jerry, first all I did not attack you verbally, I can type without my lips moving. And secondly, I pointed out glaring problems with your ability to communicate.

"I'd like to know what you think the main problem is with respect to our United States, moving backwards in nearly every area possible?"

Are you asking me or are you telling me that we are moving backwards. Are we moving backward? How do you know? Are some moving back and others moving forward?

"I'd also like to know your suggestions for correcting those problems?"

I'm moving forward. I know many of you in this 12 point program called "The Odysseus Group" have fallen behind, but that is not indicative of the general population. That would be anecdotal evidence.

"I've tired to explain my feelings, on both."

Yes, I know how you feel. But I don't know how you think. You write like a Junior Gatto, its all feelings and hasty generalizations.

"My answers were: Our school systems were not only falling far short of goals."

Our? I don't have a school system Jerry nor do I care about yours. The only wonder is why do you? Why don't you hire tutors for your kids?

"But were purposely brainwashing our young to be numbed down, or at least dumbed out, of reality, by our educational system. Another words did not want our young to grow up to be wiser than our leaders."

Take me to your leader...(in my best 1960's robot voice). Are leaders smart Jerry or are they popular?

That would explain the problem, of our country moving in the wrong direction as a society."

Jerry the world is getting better everyday and yet you have a sinking feeling. Do you think maybe the sinking feeling is localized to you?

"The answer of course, would be to educate our young, to think, and thereby, resolve the problems."

Yes, Jerry education and learning are good things.

"Failure to correct our educational system will only contribute our social decay, and ethical problems. The integrity of our county is at stake, to those wise enough to think reasonably,."

Jerry, are you saying we should teach morals in schools. I cannot believe you wrote that. Are you saying that the concepts of right and wrong exist in our moral relativist society? That is dangerous talk Jerry.

"I do indeed care about our country, it's people, and it's future. Many of my good friends are dead today, because we fought in Viet Nam because our government asked us too. We didn't have to go there. We could have gone to Canada, Sweden, or college instead. But we didn't. We did what was asked of us."

Jerry I am hoping it was more to do with you thinking it was the right thing to do and not the government telling you to do it.

"I'd probably do it again. Why? Because I think God put me here to help those whom ask for my help. And by doing so, I am blessed in return. To turn away from those in need of help, is very selfish and cowardly."

Jerry, what happens in your world if they don't want your help? This country was founded by rugged individualist that didn't need the busybodies of the world.

"If I seem stupid, or foolish to some. I'd ask that you not teas me, or point out my shortfalls, to the world. But help me become all that I could be. And by doing so, help the world by living the will of God,."

Jerry I think you need to focus on Jerry. It is plain to see that you want to live a weighty life and do well by your fellow man. In my very humble opinion, you are breaking away from yourself to join a cause so you can throw off your "Jerriness" and be one of the crowd. The million dollar question is why do you want to do this? And why did you pick this crowd?

Mugato

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writing skills aside, you make your point just fine

OTH, you are right, nastiness says so much about a person- even when they are eloquent in their nastinesss

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I wont be leaving anymore messages on this site.
I have tried to contribute, and ask questions within reason. But it is clear that after one week, of participation. All I'm getting are wiles, and jibberish slander.
In closing, I want all to know that I was trying to help solve a couple is serious problems in our society. But have found that these problems are very much alive and well. So much so that I presently feel
like we deserve exactly what we have, and knowthing more. Jerry,

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m((((hugs team))))

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Don't take the class clown seriously

So, Mugato, "Why do YOU "pick this crowd"?????

And why pick on a newcomer like Jerry? Easier prey?

Re: Education Why create a firestorm in Hell?

Eye xpekt No 1 2 unda stnd dis.

Because its hot already and no one will notice.

The message is not the medium.

I like mine medium rare, not to hot I guess...

Create Your Own Truth.

Love

Sid

The Mugato is a big bear of white color, with a horn to the center of the head.

FYI
The Mugato is a big bear of white color, with a horn to the center of the head. it is a voracious carnivorous that lives in the Neural planet. His bite is poisonous and leads to the death through atrocious sufferings in a very short lack of time. The only person able to heal the bite of the Mugato is a Kanatu. The Kanatu cuts her hand, then uses a live root to heal the poisonous bite. But this root acts as a love potion and the person whose blood has mixed with that of the Kanatu are tied up to the his wishes and will obey her without hesitation.

Marva Collins was like your mom

Ever read Marva Collins Way? It's a story about an excellent teacher who taught underpriveledged kids in her own private school after quitting the public schools she could see were not serving the kids. You'd probably like it, as well as Gatto's works.

Re: A favor to Jerry

"I'd like to ask you a couple of questions. Please try to rationilize your answers though without making this a personal verbal attack."

"Ok Jerry, first all I did not attack you verbally, I can type without my lips moving"

Ok Mugato, here is the speech-language pathologist to tell you that verbal language includes both oral and written forms according to accepted definitions used by folks like me who deal with language development and disorders. Non-verbal language refers to paralinguistic features(e.g. intonation, pause, proxemics, gesture etc.), not typing. You did not attack Jerry "orally" but you did attack him "verbally" using verbal language in the written rather than the oral modality. I'm not sure why, and some of what you write sounds intriguing but you are way too obscure for me.
Leslie in KY


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