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Part One of Transcripts of Recent 'angusfans' Posts...
...directly related to the Art Gallery and Scripts Library, reposted here with permissions: From: "Kathy Pitzer" Subject: Six New Art Pieces... Some of those are quite excellent while others are tres raw. Wonder if he has ever considered taking classes. Def great talent there, but a little instruction couldnt hurt. I'm in the same place with my writing. I'd love to see an example of his writing, is there somewhere I could go to sample his writing style? I'm still looking for my "voice", my own unique style. It's developing, but when I hear someone elses "voice" in their writing, it helps me to clarify my own. Thanks! Kathy From: Deejay Subject: Re: Six New Art Pieces... http://www.angusmacfadyen.com/scriptslibrary.html Enjoy! Deejay =} From: Sailorhathor@aol.com Subject: Re: Six New Art Pieces... I don't think he's actually going for something that looks good over your couch with some of the art pieces. Obviously, he can paint and draw the human form "correctly" when he wants to, but like Picasso, chooses not to to express certain emotions. A lot of his work is very Impressionistic and abstract. LaurelFrom: "Kathy Pitzer" Subject: Re: Six New Art Pieces... Yeah, I know you're right about that, I guess I find the way he paints females a little disturbing. Maybe it's just his way of preserving their annonymity, dunno. But IF I had a beautiful man painting me, I'd want it to look like me, my best me. Guess I pretty provincial like that, lol, not to mention VAIN! Frankly, I'd prefer for him to be in the nude yoo! LOL! I'm so bad, somebody, please stop me. Kat From: Sailorhathor@aol.com Subject: Re: Six New Art Pieces... Oh I understand; some art forms aren't personally appealing to me (like Cubism). But at the same time, I acknowledge that no one had done anything like Cubism before Picasso, so that's why it was so special. I'd definitely rather be painted like "Paige" than "Imogen." Laurel From: "Kathy Pitzer" Subject: Re: Six New Art Pieces... Several of them are quite appealing to me, but alot of them ...well the correct word is appalling. Clearly I must be missing the point! Reaction to art is VERY subjective. I understand that there are people who are made violently ill by looking at any form of art. Tres strange. Generally Angus is wonderfully very competent at everything he does and seems to revel in sharing his works with us, which in and of itself makes him very special and unique. He seems to be one of the few stars who "Gets it" about fans. Smart guy! Hopefully everyone will be cool and appreciative of his time and efforts and otherwise leave him alone to do his thing. It can only take one looney to ruin it for everyone. Some may be more sensitive to the pressure of fame than others. Dunno about fame and fortune. I'd gladly take the $, but not so sure I want actual fame! Seems like that can be a real drag! Thanks for the info. I love your "voice". So lovely, classy and tres intelligent! That's how I used to sound before I started to loose my memory, now i find a simple "Fire bad, tree pretty!" (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) to be a challenge! Still being into science and literature from an early age, I comfort myself with the certain knowlege that I've probably forgotten more than most people have ever known. Snotty, but true!! LOL! It can be very hard to find anyone I can really talk to about art, science, writing or anything of substance, let alone someone who doesit with grace and style. Gee, above all I need to rediscover style and grace in my own writing. Thanks for the inspiration! Have a very successful day! Kat From: Sailorhathor@aol.com Subject: Re: Six New Art Pieces... In a message dated 7/7/2004 2:22:49 AM Central Daylight Time, kathy1234545212@yahoo.com writes: *Several of them are quite appealing to me, but alot of them ...well the correct word is appalling. Clearly I must be missing the point!* Hee, yeah, I was sort of put off by "Imogen" myself; that's one I can remember by name that when I first saw it, I was like, "Jeeeeez..." But at the same time, I do like it when someone creates something artistic that stirs people up. Even if I can't personally get into it, just for it to make people feel something... that's very powerful. There's too much out there that just floats by your radar. *Reaction to art is VERY subjective.* Oh yes, very much so. More than one friend of mine is a Dali fanatic; I like a few of his pieces and find the rest nauseating, because the way he chooses to paint just reminds me of icky things. I think it's really interesting how different people can see different things in the same painting. *I love your "voice". So lovely, classy and tres intelligent!* #^_^# Thank you! I took more than one Art Appreciation and History class in college, so that helps in my understanding of a lot of it. I probably would have gone for an Art History degree if I'd been more keen on the 4-year college system. It just wasn't working out for me. At the same time, these classes have made me so open to modern art that if someone simply makes a declaration of art, I'm in support of them. So it's like that commercial where the people are having a deep discussion about a high school jacket hung on a hook as if it's a piece of installation art, and the guy comes along and takes his jacket, then stares at them like they're crazy. I'd be one of those people. ;D I'm willing to see art in anything. Anyway, I enjoy these conversations. Stir more of these up, Angus! Laurel From: "ckcnl" Subject: Re: Six New Art Pieces... Although I'm not an artist at all, I tend to think the more realistic female paintings are based on someone posing for him, either as he's painting it or from a sketch he made first. So, I would think the person is comfortable in the pose or she wouldn't agree to do it (I'm thinking of "Imogen" in particular). As established previously, art is very subjective. "Imogen" doesn't bother me. Sure, my first thought was, "Wow - what a pose!" but my second thought was, "Wow - very uninhibited and self-confident." And she seems sassy. I like sassy. On the other hand, the tree between the legs in "Eve" makes me feel a bit squicky. But I still like the painting. CKFrom: "tooky342" Subject: Re: Six New Art Pieces... Angus is definately an abstract-impressionist, maybe even a bit cubist. I think he has had instruction, just something about the use of colours. There are some subjects of his that do nothing for me while others provoke a response. With Jackson Pollock, I see nothing in his works but spilled and dribbled paint. Mostly I'm drawn to more traditional stuff since that's where my work usually lands, but every once in a while I see a piece that really hits me no matter what the style. tooky From: Devi Subject: What a wonderful Art Discussion..... And I gotta get in on it..... Kathy said---Some of those are quite excellent while others are tres raw. Wonder if he has ever considered taking classes. Def great talent there, but a little instruction couldnt hurt. I say---very interesting. But you could look at my artwork and say the very same thing. I'm a graduate from the Art Institute of Houston. I can do pieces that are as detailed as the old "Masters" but choose to create very abstract, sometimes dark and always controversial pieces. One of the biggest complaints my instructors had was that I had the talent but because of what I choose to turn out, I would probably never be a successful "commercial" artist. Well surprise to them...I took the courses to learn different methods. I wanted to learn ways of getting what was haunting me in my head out of my head and onto canvas....Still do but am running out of supplies quickly....lol....well, there's always the photo editor. So I guess what I am saying, is that Art is a very personal thing. For example. I adore Billy Wirth, love his acting and will watch him in anything he does...no matter how big or small his part it...but his artwork, although also very abstract, is something I can't abide at all. I just can't figure out where he is going with it. Angus is the opposite, not only do I love his acting work, his artwork rather speaks to me....AND I will be the first to say that not everyone will be able to enjoy it....some with be totally turned off by it. Kathy said---I guess I find the way he paints females a little disturbing. Myabe it's just his way of preserving their annonymity, dunno. But IF I had a beautiful man painting me, I'd want it to look like me, my best me. I say---Ohhhh, I don't know....I don't want anyone to paint me anyway...I would much rather be doing the painting....now in class we did do nude painting... and we had this beautiful nubian God come in and pose for us.....and of course, to my instructors chagrin.......I did it my way.....The model loved it and after I recieved my grade, he asked if he could have it....(shrug)....I didn't mind at all...so he has it I guess...that's been a few years a go. Sailor said---Oh I understand; some art forms aren't personally appealing to me (like Cubism). But at the same time, I acknowledge that no one had done anything like Cubism before Picasso, so that's why it was so special. I'd definitely rather be painted like "Paige" than "Imogen." I say---hey hey hey...leave cubism alone....lol...I adore that style...of course I can sit for hours and stare at a Rothko also....and he is very...hmmm.... interesting is the word.... Kathy said---Several of them are quite appealing to me, but alot of them ...well the correct word is appalling. Clearly I must be missing the point! Reaction to art is VERY subjective. I understand that there are people who are made violently ill by looking at any form of art. Tres strange. I say---This is so fun Kathy....I wish we were in a gallery somewhere just talking about these art pieces.....Would you mind if I ask which ones you are drawn to and which ones repel you.....???? I would be very intersted in discussing both kinds.... dev From: "Kathy Pitzer" Subject: Re: What a wonderful Art Discussion..... Hi Devi! I'd be glad to give you my humble ideas, such as they are! I like the first line ("B. Holden" - "Con Man", ironically, I know a lot of salesmen and politicians and preachers who look just like that pic, LOL!) The second line of works I'd classify as merely ok, nothing fabu or too odd or offensive. (Not that I necessarily mind being offended if the artist is making a valid point!) It does bother me that "Enemy" looks more female than male. The whole "One Night Stand" thing is profoundly disturbing to me. How it resonates with me (and I may be the looney toon here, lol!) is that he is really afraid of women, imbuing them with more power and capacity for evil then they may actually possess in reality. It says that these women are ugly, disturbed creatures. Or perhaps he paints them as they are afraid he percieves them, thus giving him power over tham. (Gee, does this sound a little like mental masterbation to you too?) Maybe I'm the one who needs a Zoloft, it could be so! But that is really the degree to which those pics bother me! He may have had no such intention, who knows? "Full Blown - Condaleeza" just bizarre! (Though Condalisa Right strikes me that way, for real!) I like the first 4 "Dreamers", but the last 2 slip back into bizarre. I like the whole "Down the sink" line of pics. Obvious meaning, nice color and form. "Diva" line, like them all. His dark irony in the "Pride and Nails" line is perfectly clear and right on the mark. His Le Pensier with an "I AM" appelation, Very Interesting! The rest of the pics in that line are colorful, but definitely tread on that line between brilliance and madness. I love the "Excalibur", the rest in that line are ok. Interesting study of hands. After faces, the first thing a baby notices about it's physicality is it's hands. It's there, it's real, it moves through time and space, it has effect. You can use it to do things with, or leave things undone. They can love you or hurt you. Have ya ever noticed someone who is very upset or disturbed look at their hands? They consider many aspects and things about hands, their power and their powerlessness. Often considering if they wish to BE real any more. Very fascinating. "Liberty Assailed" (I am a soapbox foaming at the mouth ultra radical liberal!) I just plain love this pic. I know he is always deeply concerned about freedom of speech (Cradle!) as are we all, especially now with the thought police in full force. The rest of that line in fascinating too. The "War" line is colorful and exotic. The "Chronos" line, classical subjects and eternal problems done in modern art with classical overtones. I like it. I do like modern art, but it needs to have color,def shape and form, not to mention meaning to hold my interest and appreciation. I'm just a old provincial fart, I guess! I just appreciate the classical art forms more these days, though I have seen some wonderful mixed media and performance art lately that amazed me and I was very impressed with. High school students at a large bank down town Cincinnati. Strange that in a bastion of Corporate facism, Cincinnati is a high art town. We are a paradox! Incredible. Restored my faith in modern art and the creativity of the American youth. It literaly made me happy and made me THINK. Just what art is supposed to do! There may even be hope for Cinci yet! Art is indeed liberating. What wonderful experiences you've had Devi! I would love to see a pic of that nude. It sounds lovely. Human bodies are so hard to do, in any case. Can you post pics of some of your art? God, Angus is the thinking persons crumpet, isnt he? Gotta jet, talk to all of you fascinating people again later! Kathy From: "tooky342" Subject: Re: What a wonderful Art Discussion..... Interesting you should write about how he portrays women. As you state above that he's afraid of women, I tend to think along the same lines but of particular women. The ones he meets in Hollywood only. To me it seems he can only find hard bitten, shallow, driven and careless females who can be delightful in front of the camera and totally vapid and shallow off camera. In his line of work he probably doesn't meet real people, much less women. It would be interesting to see him do a painting of a job-hunting housewife who is studying for her bachelors degree from NJ, or a travel/media writer who just moved to Florida or a woman who just became a mother or a student in Michigan who happens to prefer Skeet "Puppy Bash" Ulrich to mystery dude Alva Keel. I wonder if his artistic approach to these real women who have depth to them would be done differently. Tooky, full of Dayquil |
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