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Bonnie Stice
Sep 27, 08 - 7:30 PM |
inversion back treatment
I was reading about the back inversion. If my head is lower than my feet, I always get SO stuffed up in my nose and head~ I have always been bothered by this, and could not lay that way~ Is there something else I could do? Thanks
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Charlie L
Sep 27th, 2008 - 9:53 PM |
Re: inversion back treatment
Do you own an inversion table at the moment? I get this maybe temporarily if I go full inversion, but your body does adapt to it. You have to use it for about a week to get the full benefits but it's well worth it.
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Bonnie Stice
Sep 28th, 2008 - 1:03 AM |
Re: inversion back treatment
Thanks Charlie, I dont have one, but had something like it years ago, and it did not help my back OR my nose~! just cant breathe that way!!
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dave hutchieson
Sep 28th, 2008 - 12:34 PM |
Re: inversion back treatment
Guys
The Swedes have built up more data on inversion table therapy than anyone in the world.
Volvo [ the car manufacturer ] told their employees:
"Either you do inversion therapy for half an hour a day on company time, or you pay for a large part of your health insurance".
In the first year, hours of work missed from back pain dropped by over 55%.
I won't metion the manufacturer, but I use the same model, and it physically won't go back farther than 30 degrees.
The volvo workers use 15 degrees of incline.
You do NOT need to go "way back" in order to get benefits.
Going full inversion works some other things.
In order to get fluid back into disks, they found the optimal angle to be 15 degrees with some form of pumping exercise.
For a beginner, you should not be inverting more than 15 degrees.
I knwo a lot of people will disagree with that, but I have spoken to some of the best experts in the world on this, and they have scientific data to back it up.
In other words, x-rays and MRI's done before and after over a range of different inclinations.
For someone with sinus problems, even five degrees can help.
Dave Hutchieson
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Bonnie Stice
Sep 28th, 2008 - 1:46 PM |
Re: Re: inversion back treatment
Thanks so much for your input! I could't see laying on a board and going way back and maybe not being able to get back up to the upright position~ I never thought of doing it a few deg. at a time~ thanks so much!! Not sure if I will ever get one, BUT if they are not too expensive, I might or maybe as someone else suggested, rent one!! Thanks again
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Charlie L
Sep 28th, 2008 - 1:15 PM |
Re: inversion back treatment
Bonnie,
It may be that you quit too early to reap the benefits. What did you have by the way? At 15 degrees inversion it is not much to affect the sinus but it gets addicting and you want more and more till you are full inversion. I go to about 60 degrees right now and can stay there for about 2 minutes. My father bought this inversion table 3 years ago when he had neck pains. He didn't use it correctly and stopped using it after about 3 times and just had surgery. I was lucky to pick it up in the backyard, with cobwebs and rust and brought it home luckily the day before it crippled me. I was taking Tylenol for 5 days straight and after I got use to the inversion I was able to get instant temporary relief and get off pills.
My suggestion is that you rent the table for 3 weeks if you think you may ending up not using it.
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Bonnie Stice
Sep 28th, 2008 - 1:43 PM |
Re: Re: inversion back treatment
Could you tell where these are rented? I had a friends years ago to try, but gave it back to her as I did not feel like staying on it! It made me feel like this! Thanks Bonnie
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Charlie L
Sep 28th, 2008 - 3:08 PM |
Re: inversion back treatment
I believe Teeter offers them for rent. I found it during my 3 weeks lying in bed. It's somewhere deeply embedded in the web but I can't seem to find it right now. I honestly didn't bother since I already got one of my dad. I'm sure you'll have to pay for shipping. My suggestion is just to buy it directly from here and test it out since they offer a guarantee and Steve and Jesse will answer any questions from a PT point of view for free. Just be sure to use it religiously for at least two weeks before you make a final decision. Another benefit I found using this is my adult acne has not returned and my hair stopped falling out.
Take care
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Bonnie Stice
Sep 28th, 2008 - 8:35 PM |
Re: Re: inversion back treatment
must be good for skin also! and hair??? glad u are helped by it. I dont know the place u are talking about, but maybe it has a web site? I probably can go to the medicare place here and they can get me one. Thanks so much, I appreciate your prompt answers!!!
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dave hutchieson
Sep 28th, 2008 - 9:06 PM |
Re: inversion back treatment
I'll explain in detail later in a future posting about the hair and acne thing.
Basically, the inversion table does not only help the lower [ lumbar ] back, but also a little bit of the thoracic [ upper back ] and most importantly, the cervical or neck area.
In other words, your neck stretches.
The nerves which come out of the neck foramen [ little holes ] control so many things.
Once pressure is released from them, the correct signals are sent to the various organs WITHOUT DISTORTION, allowing the organs [ the skin is the largest organ in the body by the way ]to perform their task correctly.
At the Pettibon chiropractic clinic I go to, every week there is at least one patient who gets off high blood pressure and cholesterol medication.
They bring in their doctor's reports before and after treatment.
I'll explain from an electrical engineering point of view what's going on later.
But in a nutshell:
1. Brain sends signals down nerves to organs.
2. Nerves are designed to have a certain diameter to carry the correct amount of electrical current [ yes, electrical current ].
3. Organs receive the command signals and act appropriately - increase heat beat, increase adreneline production etc .
Now, if the diameter of the nerves changes [ from tight muscles, bones pressing etc ] then two things happen:
1. The correct amount of electrical current does not flow.
2. The SHAPE of the electrical signals changes.
None of this can be denied. Proper scientific tests have already proven this.
[ For any electrical engineers who are reading: Square wave pulses are injected using a signal generator, at the top of the nerve. As the signal travels through the nerve, series resistance, series inductance, shunt capacitance and shunt conductance act to form a transmission line. The characteristic impedance of the line can be calculated using a short element formula of z = R JwL/G Jwc where w = 2pi times f, and j = complex element, square root of -1. Using Fourier Analysis we can work out the response of the communications channel - the nerve. A receiving device such as an oscilloscope can be used at the receiving end of the nerve. It is also possible to use a software spectrum analyzer for frequency analysis ].
Dave Hutchieson
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dave hutchieson
Sep 28th, 2008 - 9:08 PM |
Re: inversion back treatment
Plus signs didn't come out in the equation for some reason.
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Brandon Miller
Oct 13th, 2008 - 12:33 AM |
Re: inversion back treatment
I have just recently bought EP-950 from Teeter and I've noticed some relief from the lower back pain I was having after I re-aggravated it while at work. I noticed stuffiness when inverting too but only when I had mild cold. The thing I'm still having issues with though is some pains in my right hip and right thigh. I'm hoping regular inverting will help with this though. I'm also thinking of trying out the BackJoy for my back while driving in my car as my right hip and thigh become very painful while sitting for the 30 min drive to work. It usually takes about 4-5 hrs for my lower back/right hip and thigh to "warm up" so that I don't walk with a limp.
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dave hutchieson
Oct 13th, 2008 - 12:26 PM |
Re: inversion back treatment
Hi Brandon
You need to go to a physical therapist and have him perform "Range of Motion" test on your right hip.
Look through some of the recent postings and read about the Tensor Fascia Lata test I wrote about [ basically standing beside a wall and kicking your leg out ].
You also need to get your sacro-iliac joint checked.
If you hurt after the inversion table, do NOT WORK THROUGH THE PAIN.
Dave Hutchieson
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Brandon
Oct 14th, 2008 - 6:19 PM |
Re: inversion back treatment
Thanks Dave. I don't have any pain after inverting. I usually feel a bit better. Sitting in the car for the 30 min drive to work makes my back the most uncomfortable. I'm usually stiff in the right thigh till it gets warmed up by moving around at work.I've only had the inversion table about a week now. Hopefully some more time on it well help. I probably should see somebody but I just don't have that kind of money right now. I've just spent about $500 for the inversion table and have a large looming car repair bill as well.
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dave hutchieson
Oct 14th, 2008 - 6:22 PM |
Re: inversion back treatment
Brandon
Watch the position of your feet whilst driving.
Usually, one is "lazy" and lays at an angle on the floor.
The other is used for the gas.
Try to keep both fairly straight.
Dave
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Brandon
Oct 14th, 2008 - 6:33 PM |
Re: inversion back treatment
Dave, the thing is I'm addicted to my car's cruise control so sometimes I'm using the that if the road is long and straight, so I rarely holding the gas pedal for long distance driving. I noticed when I had to use another vehicle for work (other one having issues) that doesn't have cruise my right leg/thigh seemed slightly more tense or tight by having to use the gas the whole way to work. I could try what you say even when using the cruise and see if that helps some.
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