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Less Is More Horsemanship Forum
Welcome to the Less Is More Forum. This forum is to post questions, comments, suggestions, ideas, principles, concepts and ideas regarding Natural Horsemanship and more importantly, the philosophy of "Less IS More". This is a place where like-minded people can come to throw away all the old traditional ways of training, and riding, and begin to experience a new FREEDOM in their relationship with their equine partners. Whether your goal is to learn more about natural horsemanship, get support for your own personal Less Is More belief, find solutions for problems that are hindering your relationship, begin a journey of discovery or healing, this is your home. Regardless of what the current "fads" are in traditional circles or natural horsemanship circles, I encourage you to think 'outside the box'. Feel free to post a message.
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Brittany Tarpley
May 11, 07 - 4:59 PM |
Which Trimmer Should I Use???
Hi Michael, (or anybody else that can help me) I just moved Blade to a new boarding facility about a week ago and I am looking for a barefoot trimmer. Blade has been barefoot for about three months now, and is trimmed by a regular farrier. Since I moved him, I have been hoping to find a new trimmer that specializes in barefoot trimming. It seems that there are two trimmers within an hour away from us. One is a strasser practitioner and the other is a jaime jackson method trimmer. Who would you recommend getting? Is one method better than the other? I heard that you didn't like Strasser? The strasser practitioner is closer to us, but I want the best trimming for my horse so if I have to pay a little extra for trip charges then I will. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks, Brittany |
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Michael Gonzalez
May 11th, 2007 - 7:23 PM |
Re: Which Trimmer Should I Use???
Hi...well...you are correct..I dont care for the Strasser method. I believe that it can be too severe or extreme for horses who are just starting out barefoot...I have no familiarity with the other method you mentioned.... however.... if you have had good success with your regular farrier, then by all means stick with him. My farrier is a regular farrier. he doesnt subscribe to any "method" of trimming. He takes careful measurements of their feet and legs, figures out the correct angles and then takes meticulous notes for each horse. My horses have NEVER...I repeat N-E-V-E-R been lame. Good farriers are hard to find and if you have a good one, then keep him. People think there is this HUGE mystery or fad about barefoot...actually, except for medical reasons or an extreme job (like police horses on pavement) tell me why we shoe horses...no real darn reason, it's only because thats what we have always done without questioning. I have seen horses get shoes on their second birthday just because they turned two and it was time to geld them and shoe them. No rhyme or reason. Just tradition. no, you dont HAVE to subscribe to a particular method. If it does work for your horse, then fine. Now I will say this...I love Strasser's book, "A Lifetime of Soundness"...the first 70 pages or so contain some vaulable information that everyone should read. But as far as her method, no thanks, not for my horses. Find a good farrier who understands barefoot trims and who is willing to take slow careful patience in trimming your horse so they will always be sound. No feet, no horse!!! Michael |
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Wendy Clark
Jun 26th, 2007 - 11:02 PM |
Re: Which Trimmer Should I Use???
Pete Ramey has a great book and website on Barefoot trimming. You can't just go from shoes to barefoot without some careful attention. My husband has been doing it the last year and our horses feet are very hard and healthy. We suppliment w/ vitamins and all forage. Diet is a big part of it. But trimming for shoes and barefoot are definatly different. Check out his website. www.HoofRehab.com "The Heart of the understanding one acquires knowledge, and the ear of the wise ones seeks to find knowledge."-Proverbs 18:15 |
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Connie
Jun 27th, 2007 - 9:22 AM |
Re: Which Trimmer Should I Use???
Look for a Certified Journeyman Farrier They may be more expencive but they are more qualified and know the whole horse and are for ever staying up to date on What to look for in a farrier is one that looks at the whole horse just not the hoove's their self. Comformation of the horse also has an efect on the balance of the whole horse. Taking a horse from Shoes to barefoot requires the horse to tuffen up the sole of the hoof. Just like when you start going barefooted after wearing shoes for a long period of time, your feet have to get acustom to uneven ground. Your sole's of your feet have to become callasest so you don't bruse them, same in the horse that goes from shoes to barefoot. Her is a report I had to do on the balance of the horses hooves for my Massage course. This is spending time with a certafide juryman farrier. That dose farrier work on sport horses,and show horses. There are two kinds of balance, when we talk about balance in the feet or (hooves ) of the horse. Interior-posterior: Front to back Medial-lateral: side to side Interior-Posterior balance is being address when talking of about shortening the toe and moving the heels back to keep the foot under the boney column (the three bones of the long pastern, short pastern, coffin bone) of the leg. Medial-Lateral balance your, side-to-side balance, is move to control performance and support elements, and lateral movements, it will show more in flaring and contortion. What you are looking for is the bulbs of the heel to the buttress of the foot, and establishing your distance there. Then that is influenced by the limb itself and how the limb follows down the foot; looking there to see the relationship of the foot capsule to the limb. Addressing interior- posterior is extremely important. More so on the front limb then a hind limb, you will get a lot of stumbling, shortness of stride and choppiness that will come from interior-posterior imbalance. This imbalance you can get a lot of crushed heels coddle lameness that will mimic narvicular problems, and some times could be narvicular problem. Long toe low heel is a huge element of a horse that is choppy in their footfall movements and can cause undue stress on the rest of the horse’s body. This also puts a lot of stress on the three bones of the leg that make up the hoof. Hope this helps out a bit. Connie |
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Brittany
Jun 27th, 2007 - 4:05 PM |
Re: Which Trimmer Should I Use???
Thanks Connie!! |
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Connie
Jun 28th, 2007 - 8:58 AM |
Re: Which Trimmer Should I Use???
Your very welcome Brittany! Glad to be of some help. Connie |
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Felicia
Jun 30th, 2007 - 10:35 PM |
Re: Which Trimmer Should I Use???
Hi, I am a barefoot trimmer in northern IN. I had someone ask me the other day had I trained with Journeyman (who I assumed was a local guy I hadn't met). What style of trimming is it, barefoot or regular farrier? Where is it from? I'd appreciate any info, I'm always currious to learn about the differant barefoot ideas. I'd also go with the AANHCP guy near you. I don't really care for how invasive Strasser is, especially if you have a horse with feet that need to heal. There are also Olivio certified trimmers, who aren't as invasive as Strasser, but still more harsh then someone who follows the wild horse model. There are a lot of great barefoot websites around like ironfreehoof.com hoofrehab.com, barefoottrim.com, nakedhoof.net. There is a big differance in the regular pasture trim a farrier does and what a barefoot trimmer will do. If you have someone close enough to come out I would definately go for it. Felicia |
Mary Price
 Sep 15th, 2007 - 9:12 AM |
Re: Which Trimmer Should I Use???
HI Brittany, I didn't realize until reading the message board you were looking for a barefoot trimmer. I agree that the Strausser method is very evasive. I also had been studying with the AANHCP, good Org., but a lot of things have changed with Jamie. I decided to go with the AHA and Pete Ramey. I have been studying for 2 years and practicing for 1 year. With the AHA you must have 2 years of practice before you can even join the program and start certification. I have been mentoring with Ida Hammer who Is/was AANHCP instructor until the changes occured. Many broke off from Jamie due to his "my way or the highway" mind set. His methods work...in hard rough terrain, but our part of the country is different. We have soft terrain,less rock, mud, grass,etc and we change dramatically in less than a week depending on rainfall... so, extreme methods do more harm than good (from my personal experience). I have always been taught that you must READ the hoof. Each horse tells you something different, even on the same terrain. You can't make it a cookie cutter hoof...one might be great the other, well....not so. You are always welcome to come and see my work at the farm. I do 15 horses every 4-5 weeks plus any people that need assistance NOW! My place is also visited regularly by Ida since she is a good friend and a great person!  Hope this helps by giving you another point of view to check out. Sorry I didn't know about the message board sooner.
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Brittany
Sep 15th, 2007 - 11:12 AM |
Re: Which Trimmer Should I Use???
Hi Mary, Thanks for the reply! I was able to find a barefoot trimmer this month and he just trimmed Blade's feet. His name is Scotty Scott and he is from the AANCHP. He did great with Blade! I am very pleased with the trim. Thanks for your help, Brittany |
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